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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2010/07/22/the-story-of-cosmetics/#comment-30696</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was searching for something in my inbox &amp; stumbled upon the comments from this....

Since this article was posted, I&#039;ve discovered that my complexion gets better when I have apple cider twice a week. 

Also, on flooring.... I found out that some polyurethanes contain toxic chems that can leech.
 I have oak floors in 2/3 of my house and am seriously dreading getting the floors done this year... if anyone knows or hears of good alternatives let me know. I honestly don&#039;t know if I have it in me to go the old paste wax route - I&#039;ve have really tones arms when all was said &amp; done though  :)    But I could pay someone to sand it &amp; then seal it myself with something other then poly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was searching for something in my inbox &amp; stumbled upon the comments from this&#8230;.</p>
<p>Since this article was posted, I&#8217;ve discovered that my complexion gets better when I have apple cider twice a week. </p>
<p>Also, on flooring&#8230;. I found out that some polyurethanes contain toxic chems that can leech.<br />
 I have oak floors in 2/3 of my house and am seriously dreading getting the floors done this year&#8230; if anyone knows or hears of good alternatives let me know. I honestly don&#8217;t know if I have it in me to go the old paste wax route &#8211; I&#8217;ve have really tones arms when all was said &amp; done though  <img src='http://frugalbabe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />     But I could pay someone to sand it &amp; then seal it myself with something other then poly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cortney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cortney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Dishwasher soaps- 

We got Ecover from our local coop and we really love it. It&#039;s a powder, zero phosphates, and environmentally friendly. It comes in a cardboard box, and even the pour spout is totally cardboard, so it&#039;s completely recyclable. No gritty weird residue, and everything is super clean. We&#039;re in CO, so differences in water softness/hardness may also play a part in its efficacy.</description>
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<p>We got Ecover from our local coop and we really love it. It&#8217;s a powder, zero phosphates, and environmentally friendly. It comes in a cardboard box, and even the pour spout is totally cardboard, so it&#8217;s completely recyclable. No gritty weird residue, and everything is super clean. We&#8217;re in CO, so differences in water softness/hardness may also play a part in its efficacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Babe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal Babe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica,
Glad you liked the post!  I get my soap nuts here: http://stores.buysoapnuts.com/StoreFront.bok  I bought a 1kg bag last year in August, and I still have about a quarter of the bag left (maybe a third?  somewhere in that range).  Including diapers, I wash a load of laundry at least every two days, sometimes every day, and a bag will last me well over a year.  I don&#039;t use any other laundry products at all, and have been completely satisfied with the soap nuts.  I line dry all of our clothes, and we live in a sunny climate, so maybe they get some sun beaching, which makes up for not using oxygenated bleach.  Sometimes our son&#039;s diapers have stains on them when I hang them up, but they&#039;re always gone by the time I put them away.
We do have a dishwasher, although at the moment, I&#039;m filling in for it, as it was recalled recently because of a fire hazard.  So we&#039;re waiting for a new one to be delivered.  I have tried a range of dishwasher soaps, and haven&#039;t been impressed so far, but that may be because we have hard water here... we&#039;re considering a water softener, but haven&#039;t decided on anything yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica,<br />
Glad you liked the post!  I get my soap nuts here: <a href="http://stores.buysoapnuts.com/StoreFront.bok" rel="nofollow">http://stores.buysoapnuts.com/StoreFront.bok</a>  I bought a 1kg bag last year in August, and I still have about a quarter of the bag left (maybe a third?  somewhere in that range).  Including diapers, I wash a load of laundry at least every two days, sometimes every day, and a bag will last me well over a year.  I don&#8217;t use any other laundry products at all, and have been completely satisfied with the soap nuts.  I line dry all of our clothes, and we live in a sunny climate, so maybe they get some sun beaching, which makes up for not using oxygenated bleach.  Sometimes our son&#8217;s diapers have stains on them when I hang them up, but they&#8217;re always gone by the time I put them away.<br />
We do have a dishwasher, although at the moment, I&#8217;m filling in for it, as it was recalled recently because of a fire hazard.  So we&#8217;re waiting for a new one to be delivered.  I have tried a range of dishwasher soaps, and haven&#8217;t been impressed so far, but that may be because we have hard water here&#8230; we&#8217;re considering a water softener, but haven&#8217;t decided on anything yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I really enjoyed this post! I spent an hour last night looking up info about soap nuts. I have never heard of them but would like to give them a try. Where do you get yours from? I read that you do need to use oxygenated bleach with the whites and wondered if you did? They really look fascinating. I am curious if you have a dishwasher and if so what you use as well? 

I keep going back and forth with cosmetics and other things and this post really helped me. I went on the cosmetic database last night and looked for specific makeup with the lowest chemicals.I was disappointed to see my Mrs. Meyer hand soap that I thought was pretty healthy is indeed not so. 

Thanks again. I really enjoyed this post and am going to attempt to work on becoming less toxic in the home and what I put on my body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I really enjoyed this post! I spent an hour last night looking up info about soap nuts. I have never heard of them but would like to give them a try. Where do you get yours from? I read that you do need to use oxygenated bleach with the whites and wondered if you did? They really look fascinating. I am curious if you have a dishwasher and if so what you use as well? </p>
<p>I keep going back and forth with cosmetics and other things and this post really helped me. I went on the cosmetic database last night and looked for specific makeup with the lowest chemicals.I was disappointed to see my Mrs. Meyer hand soap that I thought was pretty healthy is indeed not so. </p>
<p>Thanks again. I really enjoyed this post and am going to attempt to work on becoming less toxic in the home and what I put on my body.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bug repellent has never worked for me--no matter how much I put on, I get eaten alive by the mosquitoes :p  I definitely did not want to slather my kids with chemicals, especially if they were still getting bit.  We have potted citronella plants around our deck and they keep most of our yard mosquito free :0)  If we are going hiking or to the park and need some protection, we have an all-natural repellent we buy at our local health food store which is made from several plant oils (mostly citronella).  Its a little hard on the pocketbook but it works so well it is worth it!   Between our plants at home and our natural repellent, we don&#039;t have to worry about mosquitoes anymore :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bug repellent has never worked for me&#8211;no matter how much I put on, I get eaten alive by the mosquitoes :p  I definitely did not want to slather my kids with chemicals, especially if they were still getting bit.  We have potted citronella plants around our deck and they keep most of our yard mosquito free :0)  If we are going hiking or to the park and need some protection, we have an all-natural repellent we buy at our local health food store which is made from several plant oils (mostly citronella).  Its a little hard on the pocketbook but it works so well it is worth it!   Between our plants at home and our natural repellent, we don&#8217;t have to worry about mosquitoes anymore <img src='http://frugalbabe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go back and forth on the make-up issue.  I come from a HIGHLY made-up family.  I don&#039;t wear heels anymore, and I always get comments about it.  I do think make-up is ridiculous, and that society&#039;s concept of beauty and feminine power is still defined by men.  When I don&#039;t wear makeup, I feel so ugly!  Thank you life-long advertising :)

I did just start using coconut oil on my face, and it is glowing like never before.  I highly recommend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go back and forth on the make-up issue.  I come from a HIGHLY made-up family.  I don&#8217;t wear heels anymore, and I always get comments about it.  I do think make-up is ridiculous, and that society&#8217;s concept of beauty and feminine power is still defined by men.  When I don&#8217;t wear makeup, I feel so ugly!  Thank you life-long advertising <img src='http://frugalbabe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I did just start using coconut oil on my face, and it is glowing like never before.  I highly recommend!</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - baby steps.  I&#039;m glad to hear that your son has an organic mattress.  I wish I had known about these alternatives when my daughter was a baby.

Yes, it it very hard on the budget.  Even though I can do my own upholstery work, I totally get that.  My hope is the prices will come down as materials become more readily available.  As it is they are considered luxury items and priced accordingly.  Materials based on the petrochemical industry are so much more readily available and essentially subsidized by governments - therefore cheaper to buy.  Imho, we don&#039;t pay the true cost (for oil spill clean ups, etc.) of an item when making an original purchase of foam, carpet, fabrics, or anything made from or packaged in a petroleum based product.  If we did, people would scream to high heaven about taxes, lost jobs, and government intervention.  In the meantime we are polluting our planet and creating toxic environments for our children.  It&#039;s criminal.

I don&#039;t believe in throwing out something until it NEEDS to be replaced.  It isn&#039;t eco-wise to throw something in a landfill that is usable and already in place.  That is wasteful.  Frugality, to me, is a mentality of creativity, inventiveness, and resourcefulness.  While carpet may not be the best choice, if it is already in place, kept clean, and in good condition, use it until it is worn out.  Then replace it with a sustainable &amp; healthy choice in flooring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; baby steps.  I&#8217;m glad to hear that your son has an organic mattress.  I wish I had known about these alternatives when my daughter was a baby.</p>
<p>Yes, it it very hard on the budget.  Even though I can do my own upholstery work, I totally get that.  My hope is the prices will come down as materials become more readily available.  As it is they are considered luxury items and priced accordingly.  Materials based on the petrochemical industry are so much more readily available and essentially subsidized by governments &#8211; therefore cheaper to buy.  Imho, we don&#8217;t pay the true cost (for oil spill clean ups, etc.) of an item when making an original purchase of foam, carpet, fabrics, or anything made from or packaged in a petroleum based product.  If we did, people would scream to high heaven about taxes, lost jobs, and government intervention.  In the meantime we are polluting our planet and creating toxic environments for our children.  It&#8217;s criminal.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe in throwing out something until it NEEDS to be replaced.  It isn&#8217;t eco-wise to throw something in a landfill that is usable and already in place.  That is wasteful.  Frugality, to me, is a mentality of creativity, inventiveness, and resourcefulness.  While carpet may not be the best choice, if it is already in place, kept clean, and in good condition, use it until it is worn out.  Then replace it with a sustainable &amp; healthy choice in flooring.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Babe</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2010/07/22/the-story-of-cosmetics/#comment-29572</link>
		<dc:creator>Frugal Babe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phyllis,
Excellent points about furniture.  Furniture and carpet are both a concern for me, although I&#039;m trying to weigh my desire to completely detoxify our home with my desire to balance our budget!  We bought an organic crib mattress for our son, and we&#039;re planning to have him sleep on it for as long as possible.  We got a used, plain wood toddler bed that will fit the mattress, and I think he&#039;ll be able to sleep on it for at least a few more years.  After that, we&#039;ll see... larger organic mattresses are very expensive.  We&#039;ve considered them for our own bed, but the cost has been prohibitive so far.  I&#039;m aware that our couch and carpet are both releasing toxic chemicals, but at this point it doesn&#039;t seem feasible to replace them all with non-toxic alternatives.  When we finish our basement, the flooring will definitely be non-toxic, and eventually when our carpet on the main floor needs to be replaced, we&#039;ll go with eco-friendly flooring.  Baby steps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phyllis,<br />
Excellent points about furniture.  Furniture and carpet are both a concern for me, although I&#8217;m trying to weigh my desire to completely detoxify our home with my desire to balance our budget!  We bought an organic crib mattress for our son, and we&#8217;re planning to have him sleep on it for as long as possible.  We got a used, plain wood toddler bed that will fit the mattress, and I think he&#8217;ll be able to sleep on it for at least a few more years.  After that, we&#8217;ll see&#8230; larger organic mattresses are very expensive.  We&#8217;ve considered them for our own bed, but the cost has been prohibitive so far.  I&#8217;m aware that our couch and carpet are both releasing toxic chemicals, but at this point it doesn&#8217;t seem feasible to replace them all with non-toxic alternatives.  When we finish our basement, the flooring will definitely be non-toxic, and eventually when our carpet on the main floor needs to be replaced, we&#8217;ll go with eco-friendly flooring.  Baby steps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article.  Since I have major chemical sensitivites my family has been going natural too.  Thanks for the tips and reminders about more ways to save money and be good to ourselves.  

One of my favorite products is rose water.  I put it in a spray bottle and spritz a cotton pad with it when I wish to freshen and de-grease my face.  I&#039;m very fair skinned and prone to redness, so this calms my skin as well.  I learned about this from someone from Egypt.  My other favs are coconut oil (use on skin and for cooking) and shea butter (wonderful on dry chapped winter skin).  Both are initially expensive but last a crazy long time as you only need a teeny-tiny amount each time you use them.  I buy a shea butter that supports a women&#039;s collaborative in Africa, but don&#039;t recall the name.  Anyway, I feel that helps in a small way to justify buying such an expensive product.  Plus my whole family uses it, so we aren&#039;t all buying different things and the labels are simple - one item, one source.

One a side note:  I do upholstery and find it very discouraging that most furniture is very toxic.  It looks so comfy and is so ubiquitous that it is most deceptive.  Polyurethane foam found in almost all furniture emits VOCs their entire life, not to mention that they don&#039;t decompose.  There is no way to recycle them once they are replaced.  Almost all of the fabrics are treated with pesticides, flame retardants, and formaldehyde.  Have you ever noticed the smell when you walk into a fabric store?  In fact, I smell it when I enter clothing stores too, but I digress.  (One more reason to buy at thrift stores!)  The problem is that natural latex foam is much more expensive than polyurethane foam so it replaced latex as the standard foam in the 1930&#039;s.  Government regulations are in place, but in favor of toxic materials in that laws were enacted to require flame retardants in bedding and seating.  Synthetic materials burn at a scary fast pace (flash burn) plus they give off deadly fumes when they burn.  Rather than ban the fibers, the solution was to require chemical treatments on fabrics.  That isn&#039;t the whole story though.  The way natural fibers like cotton are grown, processed, and dyed is also an issue.  Thankfully there are alternatives emerging.  Companies are now making truly organically grown and processed fabrics printed with non-toxic dyes, organic wools and cotton battings,  and natural latex foam (which is sustainable and supports communities where the trees grow).  It isn&#039;t cheap (yet) but if consumers buy and press for these alternatives, then hopefully the market standards will change.   In the meantime, I take small steps - one chair at a time, looking at it as an investment in the kind of world I wish to live in and in my family&#039;s health, both now and in the future. 

Thanks to everyone with the mosquito solutions.   We&#039;ll give them a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article.  Since I have major chemical sensitivites my family has been going natural too.  Thanks for the tips and reminders about more ways to save money and be good to ourselves.  </p>
<p>One of my favorite products is rose water.  I put it in a spray bottle and spritz a cotton pad with it when I wish to freshen and de-grease my face.  I&#8217;m very fair skinned and prone to redness, so this calms my skin as well.  I learned about this from someone from Egypt.  My other favs are coconut oil (use on skin and for cooking) and shea butter (wonderful on dry chapped winter skin).  Both are initially expensive but last a crazy long time as you only need a teeny-tiny amount each time you use them.  I buy a shea butter that supports a women&#8217;s collaborative in Africa, but don&#8217;t recall the name.  Anyway, I feel that helps in a small way to justify buying such an expensive product.  Plus my whole family uses it, so we aren&#8217;t all buying different things and the labels are simple &#8211; one item, one source.</p>
<p>One a side note:  I do upholstery and find it very discouraging that most furniture is very toxic.  It looks so comfy and is so ubiquitous that it is most deceptive.  Polyurethane foam found in almost all furniture emits VOCs their entire life, not to mention that they don&#8217;t decompose.  There is no way to recycle them once they are replaced.  Almost all of the fabrics are treated with pesticides, flame retardants, and formaldehyde.  Have you ever noticed the smell when you walk into a fabric store?  In fact, I smell it when I enter clothing stores too, but I digress.  (One more reason to buy at thrift stores!)  The problem is that natural latex foam is much more expensive than polyurethane foam so it replaced latex as the standard foam in the 1930&#8242;s.  Government regulations are in place, but in favor of toxic materials in that laws were enacted to require flame retardants in bedding and seating.  Synthetic materials burn at a scary fast pace (flash burn) plus they give off deadly fumes when they burn.  Rather than ban the fibers, the solution was to require chemical treatments on fabrics.  That isn&#8217;t the whole story though.  The way natural fibers like cotton are grown, processed, and dyed is also an issue.  Thankfully there are alternatives emerging.  Companies are now making truly organically grown and processed fabrics printed with non-toxic dyes, organic wools and cotton battings,  and natural latex foam (which is sustainable and supports communities where the trees grow).  It isn&#8217;t cheap (yet) but if consumers buy and press for these alternatives, then hopefully the market standards will change.   In the meantime, I take small steps &#8211; one chair at a time, looking at it as an investment in the kind of world I wish to live in and in my family&#8217;s health, both now and in the future. </p>
<p>Thanks to everyone with the mosquito solutions.   We&#8217;ll give them a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Cortney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cortney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this video last week, and while I knew there were toxins in our beauty products, I had no idea that they are flat out not regulated. If it&#039;s going on my lips, if it&#039;s getting slathered on my skin- which absorbs everything- how is it ethical or responsible that the ingredients are not tested? As you said, most people have experience with the FDA monitoring things, so they would *assume* that things like baby shampoo or tampons are monitored as well. And the fact that they are not is really a huge oversight. 

We&#039;re switching to baking soda for toothpaste once our current tube runs dry. I&#039;ve switched to a &quot;crystal stick&quot; for deodorant- just a mineral salt stick, it&#039;s awesome!- and the only makeup I usually ever wear is a swipe of eyeshadow. I&#039;m excited to try the &quot;no-poo&quot; method, because my hair is very thick and wavy, and almost down to my waist, so I already only wash it about twice a week or else it will dry out. The one thing I simply cannot give up, however, is my Retin-A. I had terrible acne starting at 15 or 16 that just got continually worse, to the point of strangers pulling me aside often in public to offer suggestions and pity. After over a decade of trying everything under the sun, from natural to medical to lasers to changes in diet, this is the only thing that works.  I wish I could be a fresh faced all natural girl that did a wash &#039;n&#039; go with some Dr. Bronner&#039;s, but it&#039;s not in the cards for me, so I just try and make it up in other ways :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this video last week, and while I knew there were toxins in our beauty products, I had no idea that they are flat out not regulated. If it&#8217;s going on my lips, if it&#8217;s getting slathered on my skin- which absorbs everything- how is it ethical or responsible that the ingredients are not tested? As you said, most people have experience with the FDA monitoring things, so they would *assume* that things like baby shampoo or tampons are monitored as well. And the fact that they are not is really a huge oversight. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re switching to baking soda for toothpaste once our current tube runs dry. I&#8217;ve switched to a &#8220;crystal stick&#8221; for deodorant- just a mineral salt stick, it&#8217;s awesome!- and the only makeup I usually ever wear is a swipe of eyeshadow. I&#8217;m excited to try the &#8220;no-poo&#8221; method, because my hair is very thick and wavy, and almost down to my waist, so I already only wash it about twice a week or else it will dry out. The one thing I simply cannot give up, however, is my Retin-A. I had terrible acne starting at 15 or 16 that just got continually worse, to the point of strangers pulling me aside often in public to offer suggestions and pity. After over a decade of trying everything under the sun, from natural to medical to lasers to changes in diet, this is the only thing that works.  I wish I could be a fresh faced all natural girl that did a wash &#8216;n&#8217; go with some Dr. Bronner&#8217;s, but it&#8217;s not in the cards for me, so I just try and make it up in other ways <img src='http://frugalbabe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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