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		<title>By: Frugal Babe &#187; Archive &#187; Dilema Solved</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10636</link>
		<dc:creator>Frugal Babe &#187; Archive &#187; Dilema Solved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, I was pondering the ins and outs of a new position at the librarywhere I work.Â  I went to work on Thursday after deciding that I would go ahead and apply for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: buckythepony</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10450</link>
		<dc:creator>buckythepony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing to think about ...

A few years ago I was in a similar situation, and made the wrong decision. I stayed in the job I loved with the great co-workers and turned down another not-quite-as-great job that paid $5K more. Two months later, my boss left and was replaced with an ogre of a man. I went to looking forward to work to having to force myself to go in each day. WIthin six months, everyone of the original employees had left the department.

Lesson learned. Work environments can change quickly. I would never recommend taking a job you hate just for more money (well unless you are desperate for money or they are offering you obscene amounts, in which case you can suffer through). But, a good job for more money can always become a great job once you are there and you still have more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to think about &#8230;</p>
<p>A few years ago I was in a similar situation, and made the wrong decision. I stayed in the job I loved with the great co-workers and turned down another not-quite-as-great job that paid $5K more. Two months later, my boss left and was replaced with an ogre of a man. I went to looking forward to work to having to force myself to go in each day. WIthin six months, everyone of the original employees had left the department.</p>
<p>Lesson learned. Work environments can change quickly. I would never recommend taking a job you hate just for more money (well unless you are desperate for money or they are offering you obscene amounts, in which case you can suffer through). But, a good job for more money can always become a great job once you are there and you still have more money.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10218</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance you could ask them to match that salary at your current position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance you could ask them to match that salary at your current position?</p>
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		<title>By: udandi</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10207</link>
		<dc:creator>udandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say apply, do it for me because if you got the job with your bachelors degree you&#039;d be making more than I am with a MLS ;) 

Who knows, maybe you&#039;ll inject some fun into the new department?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say apply, do it for me because if you got the job with your bachelors degree you&#8217;d be making more than I am with a MLS <img src='http://frugalbabe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Who knows, maybe you&#8217;ll inject some fun into the new department?!</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalBabe</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10117</link>
		<dc:creator>FrugalBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the input everyone.  I think I&#039;m going to apply for the job.  The only reason I was debating the actual application is because it would mean that my current supervisor (whom I adore) would know that I&#039;m considering leaving her department, and I don&#039;t want to cause a rift in our team, especially if I don&#039;t end up getting the job.  
Boomie, I agree with you about work being a means to an end, and the reason I got the library job three years ago was because we were in debt.  But as of next week, that debt will be gone.  The only debt we have is our mortgage, and we save about $1000/month right now.  If I were to get this job, it would increase our savings, but we&#039;re in a comfortable financial situation already - very different from the one we were in three years ago when I would have taken ANY part time job to help pay off debt.  That&#039;s why this is a tough decision.... we don&#039;t NEED the money in order to make ends meet, but it would be great to add more to our savings and be a little more flexible with our budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the input everyone.  I think I&#8217;m going to apply for the job.  The only reason I was debating the actual application is because it would mean that my current supervisor (whom I adore) would know that I&#8217;m considering leaving her department, and I don&#8217;t want to cause a rift in our team, especially if I don&#8217;t end up getting the job.<br />
Boomie, I agree with you about work being a means to an end, and the reason I got the library job three years ago was because we were in debt.  But as of next week, that debt will be gone.  The only debt we have is our mortgage, and we save about $1000/month right now.  If I were to get this job, it would increase our savings, but we&#8217;re in a comfortable financial situation already &#8211; very different from the one we were in three years ago when I would have taken ANY part time job to help pay off debt.  That&#8217;s why this is a tough decision&#8230;. we don&#8217;t NEED the money in order to make ends meet, but it would be great to add more to our savings and be a little more flexible with our budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Dasha</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10111</link>
		<dc:creator>Dasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d apply. If you dont get it then you wont be too upset, but if you do you can always visit your friends in circulation and have lunch with them regularly. I guess it depends on what is more important to you in the long  term- think of what you wish five years from now that you had chosen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d apply. If you dont get it then you wont be too upset, but if you do you can always visit your friends in circulation and have lunch with them regularly. I guess it depends on what is more important to you in the long  term- think of what you wish five years from now that you had chosen.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitty</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10106</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - not 34 months ago - I meant 3 - 4 months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; not 34 months ago &#8211; I meant 3 &#8211; 4 months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s in your heart.  From what you write you have no adverse relationship with the people at the new position and all relationships have to evolve.  I&#039;ve been in my present position 4 1/2 years and have been through 6 supervisors.  They have ranged from the spawn of satan to sugar daddies and 34 months ago it came full circle and my favorite of all was promoted to my boss.  It took suffering through the bad times to get to the good times and it really is good - personally, professionally and financially.

I say at least apply.  If they make an offer you can then make the decision but there is no decision to make if you don&#039;t apply!

Ganbatte!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in your heart.  From what you write you have no adverse relationship with the people at the new position and all relationships have to evolve.  I&#8217;ve been in my present position 4 1/2 years and have been through 6 supervisors.  They have ranged from the spawn of satan to sugar daddies and 34 months ago it came full circle and my favorite of all was promoted to my boss.  It took suffering through the bad times to get to the good times and it really is good &#8211; personally, professionally and financially.</p>
<p>I say at least apply.  If they make an offer you can then make the decision but there is no decision to make if you don&#8217;t apply!</p>
<p>Ganbatte!</p>
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		<title>By: boomie</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10098</link>
		<dc:creator>boomie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t your blog about paying off debt, not about having a good time?  You can always invite those wonderful co-workers over for lunch or go out with them for a coffee, etc. if you want to keep up the socialization.  Jobs, earning money, should not be based on a social life.  That&#039;s why they call it &#039;work&#039;.  $10,000 is a lot of money, not chump change.  You are NOT supposed to get along with supervisors.  They probably treat you, as well as others, the same way for a reason. Separation.
You can use the extra money to max out your retirement funds which lowers your tax burden, pay off your debt and retire early and socialize all you want to.
I think the decision is crystal clear, don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t your blog about paying off debt, not about having a good time?  You can always invite those wonderful co-workers over for lunch or go out with them for a coffee, etc. if you want to keep up the socialization.  Jobs, earning money, should not be based on a social life.  That&#8217;s why they call it &#8216;work&#8217;.  $10,000 is a lot of money, not chump change.  You are NOT supposed to get along with supervisors.  They probably treat you, as well as others, the same way for a reason. Separation.<br />
You can use the extra money to max out your retirement funds which lowers your tax burden, pay off your debt and retire early and socialize all you want to.<br />
I think the decision is crystal clear, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
		<link>http://frugalbabe.com/2007/08/15/should-i-apply/#comment-10086</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who spent 5 years (6?) in the same position (page) at a library, I&#039;d say give the application a shot. I considered whether to join circ, but always decided against it because paging gave me more flexible hours.

Another idea, is there someone (not a supervisor, I guess, since you&#039;re not close to them) higher up who you can talk with frankly? Tell them you&#039;re considering taking the position because you think you could do well in it. Mention you&#039;re concerned that if it&#039;s not a good fit for both sides you might not be able to get back on circ.

And another idea, take the job (if you get it) and if you don&#039;t like it then wait for a position to open up back at the desk. Then explain to your supervisor that you think you&#039;re a better asset to the library at circ than in the back.

But if you&#039;re too unsure, then don&#039;t do it. I just would feel more comfortable knowing I took the opportunity to at least apply. Maybe you won&#039;t get it and your problem will be solved. If you don&#039;t get it, it might be becaus they don&#039;t want to break up a good team, who knows?

Good luck making the decisions!

-MM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who spent 5 years (6?) in the same position (page) at a library, I&#8217;d say give the application a shot. I considered whether to join circ, but always decided against it because paging gave me more flexible hours.</p>
<p>Another idea, is there someone (not a supervisor, I guess, since you&#8217;re not close to them) higher up who you can talk with frankly? Tell them you&#8217;re considering taking the position because you think you could do well in it. Mention you&#8217;re concerned that if it&#8217;s not a good fit for both sides you might not be able to get back on circ.</p>
<p>And another idea, take the job (if you get it) and if you don&#8217;t like it then wait for a position to open up back at the desk. Then explain to your supervisor that you think you&#8217;re a better asset to the library at circ than in the back.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re too unsure, then don&#8217;t do it. I just would feel more comfortable knowing I took the opportunity to at least apply. Maybe you won&#8217;t get it and your problem will be solved. If you don&#8217;t get it, it might be becaus they don&#8217;t want to break up a good team, who knows?</p>
<p>Good luck making the decisions!</p>
<p>-MM</p>
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